"4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30" (4muddyfeet)
10/09/2016 at 06:28 • Filed to: Disappoint | 1 | 5 |
After only 9,000 miles and many good drives, the DPF woes are really getting me down.
I originally intended to have the DPF gutted to fix the problems forever, the engine is Euro IV compliant without it, but there are rumours abound about new MOT testing regulations to check whether DPFs are fitted via an emissions test rather than just a visual inspection.
I would hate to spend £600 having the DPF removed, only to have to spend £1600 just to get the damn thing put back in in a years time to pass MOT if the regs came into place. How they would test for the DPF being present through emissions is unknown, and whether it would pass anyway because it’s already Euro IV compliant is also completely unknown, and I don’t think it’s worth the risk.
So I’ve made the decision to say goodbye and I’m hunting for something new.
It’s a real shame that one little afterthought by Skoda, to meet EU law quickly, means that this car - which performs admirably in every other aspect - is completely let down and almost unusable for anything other than a 30 minute plus journey. It’s an absolute waste, because otherwise this vehicle was great.
LongbowMkII
> 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30
10/09/2016 at 07:43 | 0 |
That sucks.
BvdV - The Dutch Engineer
> 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30
10/09/2016 at 07:48 | 0 |
That sure is a pity.
It’s kind of a weird symptom though, because a lot of DPF equipped car handle short drives badly, since this means the DPF can’t be ‘burnt clean’. One of my uncles actually had to drive one of the vans of the municipality he works for home once in a while, because it mostly drove around the city for maintenance. The computer on that would give a message that higher speeds were needed to clean the DPF.
I’m sure you’ll find a good replacement for it, though.
bhtooefr
> 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30
10/09/2016 at 08:18 | 0 |
I’m suspecting that, if the engine is actually meeting the standards that it’s certified for, and there’s a DPF-shaped object in place, it’ll pass, unless they literally stick a borescope in the exhaust.
However, I suspect emissions will be increased even if it still meets the norms, and that’ll be where it becomes illegal. (I’d also be surprised if it actually did meet the standards without a DPF - or if it did meet the particulate standards, it’ll be through emitting quite a bit more NOx.)
And, ultimately, this kind of thing is why particulate filtration is the wrong answer - even the “good” systems have problems here with reliability and cost of repair. And now automakers are talking about adding it to gasoline engines, because of how direct injection gasoline engines behave, especially when running rich (as in turbocharged ones). That’s gonna be the really nasty thing, right everyone moves to DI turbo gas engines. (This is why I think variable Atkinsonization, cylinder deactivation, and things like that are the way to go. Oh, and transmissions that can very quickly get the vehicle to an arbitrary RPM, and hybridization to prevent the engine from going to low load (which may actually remove the need for cylinder deactivation).)
4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30
> bhtooefr
10/09/2016 at 09:50 | 0 |
I agree that the ‘new test’ would be a measurement of particulates against the manufacturers stated output, allowing some tolerance for age/condition, rather than an emissions test. I just use the blanket term ‘emissions’ for whatever comes out of an exhaust. A new development has arisen though, in that during a medium length journey today the dpf light came on again - this is the first drive after a 0% forced regen - so my inclination is to now take it to have the DPF gutted and take a chance on the emission regulations. If the DPF light is coming on so quickly, it’s either partially collapsed or is clogging far too quickly. Either way, the car is not in saleable condition as it stands.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30
10/09/2016 at 15:26 | 0 |
Would it be hard to find another VRS Skoda in petrol form?